FOI request detail

Person under a train

Request ID: FOI-2607-1920
Date published: 28 November 2019

You asked

In the last ten calendar years how many incidents have been recorded where there has been a person under a train? Is it possible to break these figures down by calendar year and by the Tube line (i.e. Northern Line, Central Line, London Overground etc). Is it also possible to break down these figures by whether the person died or survived?

We answered

TfL Ref: FOI-2607-1920

Thank you for your email received by Transport for London (TfL) on 25 November 2019, asking for information about Persons Under Trains (PUT) on London Underground.

Your request has been considered in accordance with the requirements of the Freedom of Information (FOI) Act and our information access policy.  I can confirm TfL does hold the information you require.

The information you asked for is available on the TfL website using the following link:

In accordance with section 21 of the FOI Act, we are not obliged to supply you with a copy of the requested information as it is already accessible to you elsewhere.

However, to provide the incidents broken down by fatal and non-fatal would exceed the ‘appropriate limit’ of £450 set by the Freedom of Information (Appropriate Limit and Fees) Regulations 2004.

Under section 12 of the FOI Act, we are not obliged to comply with requests if we estimate that the cost of determining whether we hold the information, locating and retrieving it and extracting it from other information would exceed the appropriate limit. In this instance, we estimate that the time required to answer this part of your request would exceed 18 hours which, at £25 per hour (the rate stipulated by the Regulations), exceeds the ‘appropriate limit’.

You have requested "Person Under a Train" incidents for the last 10 years. During this time period different systems have been in use for recording service delays and incidents involving passengers. We have identified in excess of 450 incidents which would need to be manually reviewed in order to extract and collate those that indicate whether the incident resulted in a fatality or not (our records only apply to the status recorded at the scene). We conservatively estimate that it would take on average 5 minutes to review the records held and compare the records on each system in order to locate, extract and collate the information you have requested. It would therefore take in excess of 35 hours to provide you with the information requested and therefore exceed the cost limit.

To help bring the cost of responding to your requests within the £450 limit, you may wish to consider refining your requests to concentrate on matters which are important to you. For example, we believe we would be able to provide the information and detail requested for a shorter time period, for example for a two year period. Alternatively we could provide the number of PUT incidents without providing the detail of whether each one resulted in a fatality or not.

If this is not the information you are looking for, or if you are unable to access it for some reason, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Please see the attached information sheet for details of your right to appeal as well as information on copyright and what to do if you would like to re-use any of the information we have disclosed.

Yours sincerely

Eva Hextall

FOI Case Officer

FOI Case Management Team

General Counsel

Transport for London

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