Could you please tell me under which arrangements each of the following National Rail services charge fares that are set by TfL rather than their own own fares (eg, written into the franchise, by individual agreement with TfL, historic service arrangement): Chiltern: Marylebone to Amersham Chiltern: Marylebone to West Ruislip Thameslink: Elephant & Castle/ London Bridge to West Hampstead/Finsbury Park Great Northern: Moorgate/ Kings Cross to Finsbury Park GWR: Paddington to West Drayton/Greenford C2C: Fenchurch Street/Liverpool Street to Upminster Secondly, could you tell me how much money TfL has paid, if any, to enable each route to accept the TfL farescale rather than the NR farescale. Could you also state which body each sum has been paid to. Please give me these sums for the past five financial years (2014/15 to 2018/19).

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Could you please tell me under which arrangements each of the following National Rail services charge fares that are set by TfL rather than their own fares (e.g., written into the franchise, by individual agreement with TfL, historic service arrangement):

The only agreement of those below where TfL has paid to enable the route to accept the TfL fare scale rather than the National Rail fare scale is the First Great Western route.

Chiltern: Marylebone to Amersham

There is a historic agreement. The Metropolitan Railway and the Great Central Railway shared tracks south of Amersham from the start of the 20th century and common fares are likely to date back to this time, though TfL has no documentation confirming this. Their successor organisations (TfL and Chiltern Railways) have continued the arrangement and fares are set by TfL.

Chiltern: Marylebone to West Ruislip

An agreement was reached with Chiltern in December 2007 to facilitate early introduction of PAYG on this route. Please note that cash fares remain set on a National Rail basis.

Thameslink: Elephant & Castle/ London Bridge to West Hampstead/Finsbury Park

There is a historic agreement. However, we no longer have any record of why they were initially introduced.

Great Northern: Moorgate/ Kings Cross to Finsbury Park

There is a historic agreement. However, we no longer have any record of why they were initially introduced.

FGW: Paddington to West Drayton/Greenford

An agreement was reached with FGW in May 2008 to facilitate early introduction of PAYG on this route. Please note that cash fares remain set on a National Rail basis.

C2C: Fenchurch Street/Liverpool Street to Upminster

There is a historic agreement. However, we no longer have any record of why they were initially introduced.

Secondly, could you tell me how much money TfL has paid, if any, to enable each route to accept the TfL farescale rather than the NR farescale. Could you also state which body each sum has been paid to. Please give me these sums for the past five financial years (2014/15 to 2018/19).

Payments made to First Great Western:

2014/15 = £783,778

2015/16 = £1,098,993

*2016/17 = £977

*The payments ended a few days into the 2016/17 financial year, hence the small amount.

There were no payments in 2017/18 and 2018/19.

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Could you please tell me under which arrangements each of the following National Rail services charge fares that are set by TfL rather than their own own fares (eg, written into the franchise, by individual agreement with TfL, historic service arrangement):

Chiltern: Marylebone to Amersham

Chiltern: Marylebone to West Ruislip

Thameslink: Elephant & Castle/ London Bridge to West Hampstead/Finsbury Park

Great Northern: Moorgate/ Kings Cross to Finsbury Park

GWR: Paddington to West Drayton/Greenford

C2C: Fenchurch Street/Liverpool Street to Upminster

Secondly, could you tell me how much money TfL has paid, if any, to enable each route to accept the TfL farescale rather than the NR farescale. Could you also state which body each sum has been paid to. Please give me these sums for the past five financial years (2014/15 to 2018/19).

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