FOI request detail

Distance between all Tube Stations

Request ID: FOI-0080-1718
Date published: 09 May 2017

You asked

I write to ask for the following details about all trains taken permanently out of service during the past 20 years: • The date at which the units first entered and finally exited service. • The type of rolling stock the units were, and any serial numbers for identification purposes. • Their destination after exiting service. • If sold, the price.

We answered

 

TfL Ref: 0080-1718

 

Thank you for your request received by Transport for London (TfL) on 11 April 2017 asking for information about trains taken permanently out of service during the past 20 years.

 

Your request has been considered in accordance with the requirements of the Freedom of Information (FOI) Act and our information access policy.  I can confirm we do hold some of the information you require.

 

Unfortunately, to provide the information you have requested would exceed the ‘appropriate limit’ of £450 set by the Freedom of Information (Appropriate Limit and Fees) Regulations 2004.

 

Under section 12 of the FOI Act, we are not obliged to comply with a request if we estimate that the cost of determining whether we hold the information, locating and retrieving it and extracting it from other information would exceed the appropriate limit. This is calculated at £25 per hour for every hour spent on the activities described.

 

We have estimated that it would considerably exceed the appropriate limit to provide a response to this request. This is because it is estimated that it would take significantly longer than 18 hours to retrieve and compile the detailed information you have requested because much of this information, in particular about trains scrapped up to 20 years ago, is not readily available and is located in our archives which would take a number of weeks and a large number of man hours to retrieve. 

 

However, we can provide the car numbers and the approximate date ranges when scrapped. We also know of a few cars that have been donated or sold to third parties other than the scrap merchants.

 

On that basis, please find attached all lists of the rolling stock fleets which have been taken out of passenger service in the last twenty years. 

 

We have provided the year when fleets first operated in passenger service and are recorded on their lists or below. Specific dates of passenger service are not

available/known, but all have exit/scrapping dates.

 

The attached lists cover the following rolling stocks:-

A60 stock – Metropolitan line

C69/77 stock – Hammersmith and City Line

D78 stock – District Line

1959ts – Northern Line – first operational service from 1959

1967ts – Victoria Line – first Units 3009 and 3011 went into service 1st April 1968

1972ts – Victoria Line and Northern Line – these units started operational service from 1972 to 1974

1983ts – Jubilee Line – 15 trains first went in service in 1984 and another 15 in 1986.

 

To help bring the cost of responding to your request within the £450 limit, you may wish to consider narrowing its scope so that we can more easily locate, retrieve and extract the information you are seeking. If you want to refine your request or make a Freedom of Information Act request in future, please bear in mind that the Freedom of Information Act allows you to request recorded information held by us. You should identify the information that you want as clearly and concisely as you can, specifying the types of document that you are looking for. You might also consider limiting your request to a particular period of time, geographical area or specific departments of the organisation.

 

Although your request can take the form of a question, rather than a request for specific documents, we do not have to answer your question if it would require the creation of new information or the provision of a judgement, explanation, advice or opinion that was not already recorded at the time of your request.

 

Please note that we will not be taking further action until we receive your revised request.

 

In the meantime, if you have any queries or would like to discuss your request, please do not hesitate to contact me.

 

Please see the attached information sheet for details of your right to appeal as well as information on copyright and what to do if you would like to re-use any of the information we have disclosed.

 

Yours sincerely

 

 

Sara Thomas

FOI Case Management Team

General Counsel

Transport for London

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